Poker Edge Sorting
There must be barely anybody in the poker community that isn’t familiar with the Phil Ivey edge sorting scandal. The all-time poker great took casinos around the world for tens of millions of dollars and then landed in hot water as he was dragged through the legal system in more than one country. The lawsuit is thought to have been a major factor in Ivey’s absence from the U.S. Poker scene in the past half-decade. Since 2016, the case has been on appeal. Ivey has been making his case that “edge sorting” does not equate to cheating or fraud.
This advantage play technique has gotten a lot of attention in the media over the last few years following Phil Ivey’s edge sorting cases in Atlantic City and London casinos.
In short, edge sorting refers to a situation where the back of the card has pattern flaws, which opens the doors to identifying even face-down cards in specific cases; something that would put the player at a distinct advantage over the casino.
While there are many different techniques experienced gamblers use to try and get the upper hand, this particular one caught the attention of the public as it was used by one of poker’s best-known poker players.
Edge sorting The crux of this entire battle has centered around a controversial practice known as “ edge sorting.” In essence, a player who uses edge sorting can detect asymmetries in the manufacturer’s patterns on the backs of playing cards. In the end, Crockfords returned Ivey's stake but refused to pay out his winnings after alleging that Ivey had used 'edge sorting' to gain an advantage over the casino. What is edge sorting? Some cards that are produced have unexpected irregularities due to being improperly cut by the manufacturer. Phil Ivey Settles Edge Sorting Lawsuit with the Borgata July 9, 2020 Poker pro Phil Ivey is believed to have reached a settlement with the Borgata Atlantic City in a long-running $10-million legal battle stemming from a controversial advantage play technique the player used while playing baccarat at the casino all the way back in 2012.
Because of all the coverage, many people have developed an interest in this particular play. For some, it was just curiosity, while others were wondering if using edge sorting could maybe help them make some money as well. No matter what group you belong to, these are the top 3 facts you need to know about edge sorting.
1. Edge sorting requires a highly controlled environment
While articles you might read in the media might make it sound easy, you need a highly controlled environment to execute an edge sorting advantage play properly. This strategy involves the dealer agreeing to your requests to rotate the cards you pick, the casino only using an automatic shuffler, and pit bosses being okay with your strange demands.
If you were thinking about trying this out in your local casino, think again. No dealer or pit boss will go that much out of their way to make a player betting $20 or even $100 a hand happy. That kind of treatment is reserved only for high rollers who spend obscene amounts of money.
Even if the casino was particularly accommodating, you could only utilize the edge sorting technique if they’re actually using flawed decks. Not all card decks have defective patterns that will allow you to distinguish between favorable and non-favorable cards.
So, overall, this isn’t something you can just go and do whenever you like. It does require very special conditions, that are not likely to happen in most games.
2. Edge sorting is irrelevant in poker
Because Ivey is primarily known as a poker player and it was his personal notoriety that caused edge sorting to get so much attention, people might make a random connection between this technique and poker strategy. The truth is that edge sorting is entirely useless for poker players as there is no scenario where you could make it work.
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The kind of controlled environment you need for edge sorting can only happen in games like baccarat, most likely if you’re the only one playing. At a poker table, even if the dealer were to accommodate your request to turn cards (which would never happen in a million years), it’d be impossible to pick up any useful information. Plus, you’re playing against other players as opposed to the house.
The moment those cards are dealt to the players, those edges will get messed up since they will be moving and rotating their cards, and there is no rule to prevent it. So, not even the best edge sorting mechanic out there could find any use for the technique at a poker table.
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3. Edge sorting can get you in trouble
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Unlike card counting, which is largely legal (even if frowned upon by the casinos), edge sorting seems to be regarded more as a form of cheating. Ivey lost both of his cases (against Crockfords and the Borgata), which indicates the law isn’t on the player’s side here.
While you’re unlikely to go to prison for it, the casino may refuse to pay you when it is all said and done – and you’ll have no recourse in the matter. They could let you play the entire night to see if you win or lose (as you can still lose even when edge sorting). If you win, they simply tell you that you used the advantage play technique that’s not allowed and send you on your way.
Since courts in the UK and the USA have already established edge sorting isn’t a valid technique and represents a form of behavior that’s outside of the rules, you won’t be able to get your money. So, it’s really a lose-lose proposition.
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